My reply
In 2 Cor 12:2-4, paul said, "I knew a man in Christ (paul himself) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one CAUGHT Up TO THE THIRD HEAVEN. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."
Since Saturn is the third heaven (Mars, Jupiter, Saturn), I think Saturn is literally Heaven.
A sapphire stone was under the God of Israel's feet at Mt. Sinai (probably from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn). Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. As September's birthstone (i.e., Jesus' birthstone), the blue sapphire means Heaven.
Ex 24:10 says, "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was UNDER HIS FEET as it were a paved work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were the body of heaven (i.e., heavenly body) in his (or its) clearness."
Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., Jesus, both God [Eze. 1:1] and man) above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn has amber on it), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had BRIGHTNESS ROUND ABOUT (i.e., the 7 rings of Saturn). As the appearance of the bow (circular or semi-circular) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."
Zech. 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "I bring forth my servant The Branch. For as for the stone which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, circles, rings). Saturn has 7 rings.
How could Heaven be anywhere else? Agape
His reply
So maybe that storm is the lightning around his throne. And maybe He is angry, and maybe it finally IS time. Thanks!
Incoming e-mail, Re: The Clock is Still Ticking...for a few Hours
The last day of the Great Feast continues for a few hours this morning our time. It officially ends at sundown in Jerusalem. There is a blowing of the last trumpet that announces the close of the Seven Day Feast. It is the one that best fits the timing for the graves to open up. The trumpet sounds literally in Jerusalem just prior to the evening "twinkling of an eye".
The Blessed Day of Hope could be today.
This should be the most joyous day of our lives. It is however happening just as most expected. They expected it to be a total shock. They expected it to come without warning. They expected to not know the day or the hour.
I believe it will play out that way.
I believe that many will feel terror of being left behind.
That is a lie. Jesus said, "Lo I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Left behind theology does not leave one with much hope. But there is great hope. There is great harvests to be taken in. The real Resurrection Sunday was this past weekend. We start counting the omer on that day for fifty days to Pentecost Sunday. That was the birth of the Church, and it could very well be the resurrection of the Great Church Harvest.
My hope is that today end time events will begin to roll. I will again be in the local cemetery, as I was there previously this weekend at times the graves might open up. You see, it still is not abundantly clear just what is going to happen and when, but I have not given up hope. These very last hours are still very probable times.
Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51) Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
53) For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54) But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "DEATH IS SWALLOWED Up in victory.
55) "O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?"
56) The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law;
57) but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58) Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:50-58
What happens if they open up? Well, we go with expectation and joy that our Groom has come. (There may be a short time period after the graves open up.) Finally our eyes would really be opened. I have earnestly prayed that if my family is not ready, then I want to stay back as well. I want to work in then next harvest. I do not want to imply I am more spiritual or such. I am just sharing to calm anxiety and fear. There should be none. We should be expecting this to happen. We should know that the hour is late. We know the world is quickly spiraling out of control. I am praying to be as obedient as possible. I still mess up. I want to do His will. He has shown me much. He will require much of me because of what I know. This is just the beginning. I love you all. Have a great day.
So, I stupidly insert here thoughts of an engineer. We ALWAYS consider all options in a design. We ALWAYS design for the unexpected.
What if nothing happens?
I am serious, I am so torn, because I really have not known what I know all that long. I really want to be out of debt at His coming. I want to be found laboring in the Harvest Fields. I want to get unencumbered with this hectic life style we all live. I so wish all of you could have experienced the wonderful missions convention our church held this past Friday. There is so much excitement for many to go back into the fields, to see many more souls won for Christ. (Sitting and feeling all of this, I had to acknowledge that I could not believe that the Lord would come back just yet.) Yet the Word declares that He has appointed times, they are written in the heavens.
If I know anything at all, I know His Word is true.
I also will stumble into heaven with the question why did not something happen in the year 2008. These things are NOT coincidence. Something will happen this year.
My reply
> > That was the birth of the Church, and it could very well be the resurrection of the Great Church Harvest.
I agree. I'm looking forward to Ascension Day or Pentecost. Either fits Song of Solomon 2:10-14.
> > I have earnestly prayed that if my family is not ready, then I want to stay back as well.
But Heb 12:22-25 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. SEE THAT YE REFUSE NOT HIM THAT SPEAKETH. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven"
> > 51) Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
53) For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.
I think this applies to the second Rapture, the pre-Wrath Rapture on the Day of God's Wrath. As Rev. 6 ends, the day of God's Wrath has come. Then in Rev. 7, we see the Tribulation saints in Heaven. After that, in Rev. 8, there is silence in Heaven and on Earth while the judge is seated at the Judgment Seat of Christ. After that, the 7 trumpets are given the 7 angels.
> > I also will stumble into heaven with the question why did not something happen in the year 2008. These things are NOT coincidence. Something will happen this year.
I hope so. No matter what, we can't let up watching and holding fast. Watching was a command. In Mark 13:37, Jesus said, "And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."
Rev 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." Agape
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