Posted 6-9-00
Do you remember page 35 of the Jan., 2000, Discover Magazine that you sent me? I keep saying every time I look at it that Eta Carinae, in our galaxy and the most glorious nebula in the heavens, now looks like a piece of lace rolled up and tied in the middle like a table decoration at a WEDDING reception. Now, it finally soaks in why. It is probably a sign of the up coming Marriage of the Lamb, for the Bride is symbolically on that ship ARGO, of which Carina is THE KEEL.
Note: Here are both astonishing signs that only God could make. Lu. 21:25,28 says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars (lit., constellations)...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."
(Please look these up; they are too long for this file.) Ps 27:1-14; Ezek 33:1-7
Now that I have that out of the way. I want to see what you make of this. Luke 13:6,7: He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
I have read your interpretation of this and agree wholly. This is Christ talking of Israel and its forthcoming Wrath. But what do you make of the next couple of verses? 8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
I guess we would have to figure out which 3 years the first verses speak of. I just know that it is soon. Come Lord Jesus. Agape
PS: I was really touched by the email you received about the guy living in darkness and then suddenly being overwhelmed by the Holy Spirit. I had a similar change in my life over the last few years. Like him, I too did not listen the first two years and then just last year God pruned those dead branches for me. What an Awesome GOD.
How about earthquakes and great signs from heaven being in the same verse? Lu. 21:11 says, "And great EARTHQUAKES shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and GREAT SIGNS SHALL THERE BE FROM HEAVEN."
I don't think this sign from Heaven is really a crossbow. Turn it and it becomes a double anchor. Crossbows aren't double, but the symbol of hope in the Eastern Orthodox Church is an anchor with DOUBLE flukes, one set above the other. I am amazed. It is like the ship ARGO that has been backing into the dock is now DROPPING ITS ANCHOR. Not only that, but the symbol of hope in the Catholic church is an anchor with SINGLE flukes. That figures, since the Tribulation Pope is the Beast. This DOUBLE ANCHOR is so perfect, one side like a mirror image of the other side. Only God could do that. It even has an enlargement where the ring would be. Yeah, WOW!
> > he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down. I guess we would have to figure out which 3 years the first verses speak of.
The year 1998 was so definitely marked. I think it was the 6000th year of man's test being mortal and knowing both good and evil. It was the 480th year of the Modern Parallels too. It must have been the starting point of the four years in the parable of the barren fig tree in Lu. 13:6-9 (1998, 1999, 2000, 2001). The Lord comes AND SPEAKS in the 3rd year (i.e., probably calls us up to Heaven). He neither comes nor speaks in the extra year. I think from Pentecost, 2000 to Pentecost, 2001 is likely to be the extra year. The digging and dunging probably is Israel giving up the West Bank to the PLO and the Golan Heights to Syria. Agape
***From Marilyn: Neither is the word Trinity. The word translated "caught up" in I Thess. 4:16 is the Greek "harpazo." When that was translated into Latin, it became "rapiemir." That is where we get Rapture from in the English. Call the Rapture Harpazo if you like.
Jesus said in Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. I have never read Jesus was going 2 times. God's Word says in 1 Corinthinas 2:51-54 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep (some of us will be alive when Jesus comes), but we shall all be changed (changed from our flesh bodies to our spirit bodies) because it says in 1 Cor 15 that flesh and blood can NOT inherit heaven, [1Cor 15:52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
***There is your clue. The Rapture in I Thess. 4:13-18 is the FIRST TRUMP OF GOD. The Rapture in I Cor. 15:51,52 is the "LAST TRUMP" OF GOD. Where there is a last trump, there must be a first trump.
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.[1Cor 15:53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.[1Cor 15:54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. So Jesus comes at the 7th trumpet
***Jesus does not come at the 7th trumpet judgment. Those are sounded by angels, not by God. We are not destined to go through the wrath of God. I aim "to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come" (I Thess. 1:10).
and then ALL - EVERYBODY will be changed to their spiritual bodies and then it is too late to repent. If Satan is here at the 6th seal, 6th vial, 6th trumpet (the number of his name-666) then we will be here when Jesus comes if we don't worship the "wrong Jesus - the fake Jesus" who comes in like a lamb but speaks as a dragon. Satan is supernatural and when he gets booted out of heaven by Michael the Arch angle at the "6th trumpet" he will try to deceive the whole world.
If you can please document for me where the rapture takes place in the Bible please give me the scripture.
***I Thess. 4:13-18, Rev. 4:1. The first Rapture is as the days of Noah. The second Rapture is as the days of Lot. "But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all" (Lu. 17:29).
The parable of the wheat and tares does not say that God is going to take out any special people. Jesus said to wait, wait, wait.
***In what scripture? My Bible Plus program can't find it.
He said that the would let the tares grow with the wheat and then at the end - 7th trumpet - the harvest the would separate the wheat from the tares, keeping the tares and burning the wheat.
***Read it again. The tares are gathered into bundles to be burned, and the wheat is gathered into the Lord's barn.
He didn't say he was taking any special wheat out - he said they would grow together til the end.
***Some of the church will stay on earth until the 2nd Rapture. I want to be in the Bride of Christ and go with the group seen in Heaven in Rev. 5:9. The second group is seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:9,14. The first group are in Heaven before the 1st seal breaks. The second group are in Heaven between the breaking of the 6th and 7th seals.
Note: Matthew is particularly the gospel for Israel, In the parable of the wheat and tares in Mt. 13:24-30, Jesus is talking to the "great multitudes" (13:2). He is talking to his natural people, Israel, who, as a nation, will go through the Tribulation. Here, it looks like "gather the wheat into my barn" is the Pre-Wrath Rapture. This is the harvest of Rev. 14:14-16: "he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped." These are the 144,000 and the "great multitude...of all nations" that stand "before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes" that come "out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" in Rev. 7:9,14.
...I just need your documentation to see if what I understand is right - but from what God has blessed me with, eyes to see and ears to hear - I am sure I am right....
***Paul was first given the information about the Rapture. Before that, it was a mystery.
In Genisis One it says that the day starts with the evening so after waiting for evening on Saturday, it would then be Sunday, then they could enter into the tomb. To us it would be Saturday night.
I think the decree to rebuild Jerusalem did start at 457BC but am confused with Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD.
Here is how I think the prophecy goes.
The 69th Week
Daniel 9:25 "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be build again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
Seven weeks + threescore or 60 = 67 + two more weeks = 69. There is seven days in a week so 69*7=483. Weeks equal years so 483 years till the Messiah.
The years till the Messiah comes = 483 minus The Decree to rebuild Jerusalem at 457 BC = 26 AD. Add one more year because there was no Zero in between BC and AD and you get 27 AD
Daniel 9:26 "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined."
Threescore is 60 + two weeks or 14 = 74
74 weeks = 518
Years till Messiah is cut off should be 518 minus The Decree to rebuild Jerusalem at 457 and you get 61 AD. No Zero Year - 1 so it would be 60 AD. Why this ends up at 60 AD. I do not know. Jesus has died on the Cross but Jerusalem has yet to be destroyed. I dont think its even under attack yet.
The 70th Week Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
The seventyeth week ended in 34 AD so in the middle of the week 27AD-34AD would be around 31AD. So in 31 AD we would no longer need to sacrifice animals for forgiveness of sins.
69th week----------------------27 AD
70th week----------------------34 AD
Mid Week---------------------30-31AD Jesus dies on the cross.
The "high day" was the Passover, the day that followed the Preparation of the Passover. Jn. 19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because it was THE PREPARATION, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was AN HIGH DAY,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."
>> > I think the decree to rebuild Jerusalem did start at 457BC but am confused with Jerusalem being destroyed in 70 AD.
As he explains in The Romance of Bible Chronology, Martin Anstey found an 82-year mistake in the period of the Persian Kings. Thus 536 - 82 = BC 454. 483 years - 454 + 1 = 30 AD, the year the Messiah was "cut off" (karath, killed) (Dan. 9:26). 30 AD + 40 years = 70 AD, when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed. Forty means testing and probation. It is also one generation. In 30 AD, in Mt. 23:36, Jesus told the Pharisees, "All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION." They did, in 70 AD (30 + 40 = 70). Eze. 4:6 mentioned the iniquity of the house of Judah as being 40 days, each day to represent a year. This was fulfilled in the 40 years from 30 to 70 AD.
Dan. 9:27 is talking about the False Prophet. The one week is the 7-year Tribulation. In the middle of the Tribulation, Satan will be cast out of heaven into the Earth (Rev. 12:9). He will enter into the False Prophet, who will then speak "as a dragon" (Rev. 13:11). The Satan-possessed False Prophet will then sit in the Temple "shewing himself that he is God" (II Thess. 2:4). This and his abomination of desolation he sets up desecrates the Temple. Thus, "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" (Dan. 9:27). Agape
I do believe we are about to take a journey to the clouds.
Before, I had said that I had not seen any Doves around my house. Only swirling masses with funnel clouds. I live in Arkansas. Well that changed this afternoon when I walked outside to sit on my porch and LOOK UP. I was silently praying when I looked over and Two birds were walking in the road. I watched them closely as a car drove by. They didn't fly away but only moved over. Most birds would have flown away before the car even got close. I wasn't sure if they were Doves or not because I really couldn't see them that good. They were more of a Grey color. I walked closer and closer and then finally called my wife out. She couldn't tell either. I sat there watching them and then. One of them flew up and landed on the neighbors roof. Right on the peak. I could see the birds outline so perfect in the cloudy sunglared backdrop. That is when it became clear. They were Mourning DOVES. Two of them.
See you in the clouds soon. Agape
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