Posted 7-11-00
> > From the anniversary date (six days prior to Passover -- that is to say, on the 8th day of the 1st month, since Passover starts at sunset on the 14th day), on which Jesus prophesied the destruction of the Temple, until the anniversary date of said destruction (on Tisha B'Av -- 9th day of the 5th month), exactly 120 days passed between them.
This much information is pretty good in spite of his thinking Jesus was crucified in 33 AD. He saw the significance of the 40 years plus another 120 days, and I had not recognized it before. I put it with what I already knew and counted the days myself.
I knew that the Crucifixion was in 30 AD, and that the Olivet Discourse was on Tuesday before the Crucifixion on Thursday, Nisan 13, "the preparation of the passover" (Jn. 19:14-16). Knowing that the number of days between Nisan 1 and Tishri 1 never change, I copied the 1998 Jewish Calendar (which had the Jewish dates falling on the same day of the week as in 30 AD) and started writing in the day count.
"Jesus six days before the passover, came to Bethany." The next day was Palm Sunday (Jn. 12:1,12,13), so he arrived in Bethany on Saturday, Nisan 8, arriving as the Sabbath started, near sundown on what we would call Friday evening. They fed him supper that had been prepared on Friday, the day of preparation of the Sabbath.
Starting with Nisan 9 as day number 1, the 120th day is Av 10, the day the temple proper burned, as did Solomon's temple. Jer. 52:12,13 says, "in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month...burned the house of the Lord." According to Josephus, the fire was started on the temple grounds on Av 9, but did not break into the temple proper until Av 10. From Nisan 8 in 30 AD to Av 10 in 70 AD is 40 years, plus the extra 120 days.
In our days, Israel took the temple area on Iyar 28 (June 7, 1967). Starting with Iyar 29 as day number 1, the 120th day is Tishri 1. From Iyar 28 in 1967 to Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007) is 40 years, plus the extra 120 days.
I learned something I value, even though Eric thinks the Crucifixion was in 33 AD. Agape
There are wonderful people that find things that they know I would be interested in and send them to me. It is easy for people using MS Explorer 5.0 to mail me a Web page. When on the web site, they can click Mail -> Send Page, type in my email address and click Send.
It was through these people that I found out about these signs. I saw what the astronomers call a ring-jet or crossbow on Astronomy Picture of the Day. I saw a double anchor instead of a crossbow. I knew a crossbow was not double. Then, someone told me that the double anchor was the symbol of hope in the Eastern Orthodox Church, the single anchor the symbol of hope in the Catholic Church. Until someone sent me the Web page from the Williams Cross Museum, I did not know anything about the Anchor Cross. From their web site, I saw the drawing of the Anchor Cross and learned that it was a symbol used by early Christians.
The Museum wrote: "The Anchor Cross is formed when the top part of an anchor is in the shape of a cross. The cross symbolizes the hope Christians have in Christ and the firm faith which keeps Christians steady in the storms of life. These ideas are based on Hebrews 6:19 which reads, "We have this hope, a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters the inner shrine behind the curtain." (NRSV).
"During the days when the early church was being persecuted, the Anchor Cross was used by Christians. While Christians saw hope and strength in the symbol, their enemies saw only an anchor."
No wonder the signs are in this shape. The person who sent me the above said, "Your website refers to the double anchors in the heavens. When I first saw this picture of the double anchor I thought of the anchor cross symbol inscribed at Gordon's Calvary in Jerusalem. I first learned of the anchor cross while on a tour in Jerusalem. Apparently one of the proofs of the authenticity of the tomb is the fact that an anchor cross is chiseled into the stone above the tomb entrance."
I don't think either Anchor Cross can be seen with the naked eye. The Sun is too bright, and I am in the Northern Hemisphere besides. The other Anchor Cross is in the Southern Sky. It is in Vela, the sails of the ship Argo, in the same place as the new star, Nova Velorum, was seen on Sivan 7 (May 22, 1999). The astronomers had to announce the new star too.
As for why God didn't put the Anchor Cross in the sky so everyone could see it, I don't know, unless that would be too obvious. The prophecies must come true. Isa. 28:13 shows why the Bible prophecies are not clear enough so unbelievers can figure them out. It says, "But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken." Dan. 12:10 says, " none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."
Not being visible to the naked eye doesn't change the fact that these signs are there. If they don't seem realistic to you, you don't have to accept them as signs. I do, though. Lu. 21:25,28 says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars...And when these things BEGIN to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." Agape
I know that he is so very near but it is hard for me to let others know without being perceived a kook. The book of Revelations, O that's some mysterious book about some time way, way in the future, is usually the reply even with many fellow christians today! Can you suggest some other tact or strategy in witnessing about what is about to happen? Agape, in Christ
In talking to others, have you tried starting with the fig tree parable in Mt. 24:32-34? Israel grew leaves in the Six-Day War of 1967 (Sinai, Golan Heights, West Bank, Gaza Strip). One generation from then is the end of the Age. We can be sure that "this generation" means 40 years because Jesus used it in Mt. 23:36. In 30 AD, he told the Pharisees, "Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION." They did, 40 years later, in 70 AD. Also, the Israelites wandered 40 years in the wilderness while one generation died off.
1967 + 40 = 2007. We know from scriptures like Mal. 2:3 and Joel 2:1-3, that the Day of God's Wrath that begins the millennial Day of the Lord will be on the Feast of Trumpets. Tishri 1, 5768 is Sept. 13, 2007.
The Oslo Accords were signed Sept. 13, 1993 and ratified 3 days later in Israel on Tishri 1. Sept. 13, 1993 plus 7 good years and 7 bad years (Tribulation), as when Joseph was in Egypt, is Sept. 13, 2007. Tishri 1, 5754 + 7 + 7 = Tishri 1, 5768, which is also Sept. 13, 2007. That to me smacks of the way God does things. Agape
You are right that official Catholic dogma is Mary was sinless. My priest knew I didn't buy that and he knew I didn't think the Pope was faultless. He said they feel the Pope is faultless when considering matters of the church. He can be faulty in other human matters. It doesn't matter to me what the official dogma about the Pope is and I did not have to believe it to be a Catholic. There is one criteria for being a Catholic. Believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, died for our sins, and was resurrected from the dead. With that belief comes confession of sin and living a Christian life. This belief is witnessed before the Church as is baptism. Sounds like the Baptist church, doesn't it? All other issues are a sideline and not critical to salvation.
I read about the Marion effort to elevate Mary and it was presented as a way to honor her rather than her being a way to salvation. Personally, I think it is a crock. Does that mean I can't be a Catholic? No.
When we get to heaven, let's have tea with Mary. She had to have great faith to accept the message Gabriel presented to her. She was to become divinely pregnant. What do you tell your friends and acquaintances? They probably thought the same thing most people do today when we try to tell them the end of the age is upon us. Something like, "Divine pregnancy? Yeah, right." What did Gabriel say? "Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God." "And Mary said, 'Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word.' And the angel departed from her." Then Mary visited Elisabeth, the about to be mother of John. Mary said to Elisabeth, "My soul doth magnify the Lord, and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name." Is our faith that strong? Could we do as well as Mary in that situation? Then, could we watch while our son was crucified? We know Mary knew He was resurrected. What joy. What happened to Mary after that? We don't know.
I imagine Mary will tell us the Catholics overdid the "call me blessed" thing and those statues didn't really look like her. I believe there is a special place for her. I hope her tea schedule is not too full. Love
> > Believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, died for our sins, and was resurrected from the dead. With that belief comes confession of sin and living a Christian life.
I'm glad you are a true Christian. That is what counts. Rev. 2:25 says, "But that which ye have already hold fast till I come." I have known some that were trusting the church to get them to Heaven instead of making a declaration of personal faith in Christ our Saviour. They are the ones that need to hear Rom. 10:9,10: "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
They also need to know that I Tim. 2:5 says, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." Mary is not a mediator between God and man. Agape
What does the Rapture have to do with when Jesus was born? I fail to see a connection.
> > do an indepth study of sukkot the biblical evidense is there how you can NOT see it?. unless you dont want to
I have read the entire Bible at least 15 times, in as many versions. I did as much research on the birth of Christ as possible in the Seminary Collection at the library at BIOLA, the Bible Inst. of Los Angeles. I even went back into the Rare books and old handwritten MSS. What research have you done?
Have you looked at a Jewish Calendar that lists when the former and latter rains and the different crops come? My Unger's Bible Dictionary has them listed. The former rain starts Tishri 1. The latter rain starts Nisan 1. How do you interpret the following verses?
De. 11:14: "I will give you the rain of your land in HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain and the latter rain"
Hos. 6:3: "the LORD: HIS GOING FORTH is prepared as the morning; and HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, AS THE LATTER AND FORMER RAIN UNTO THE EARTH."
Joel 2:23: "rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month."
Prov. 16:15: "In the light of the king's countenance is life; and his favour is as a cloud of the latter rain."
Job 37:5,6: " God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend. For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to THE GREAT RAIN OF HIS STRENGTH."
Eze. 29:17,21: "in the FIRST MONTH, in the FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH... IN THAT DAY will I cause the horn of the house of Israel to BUD FORTH, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD." Agape
Therefore, *I THINK* that the rainy season starts Tishri 1 and ends the following Nisan 30. To me, this eliminates the three feasts in Tishri and the three feasts in Nisan. Of the seven feasts, ONLY Pentecost is left. It is certain that it is after "the rain is over and gone."
wrong M agee it simply begins in the first month... after sukkot ask the Jews why they pray for rain then???? and not Tishrie 1.... again the evdidense is there if your willing to look at it...
Eze. 45:18 says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary." I think that when Christ returns on Nisan 1, the first day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year, that the sanctuary will be cleansed. It will have been desecrated by the False Prophet in the middle of the Tribulation, thereby causing the sacrificing that started again as the Tribulation began to abruptly cease. I think Jesus will officially take office on Earth on the same day the other Israelite kings officially took office, Nisan 1, first day of the Regnal Year. It is the Regnal Year because Yeshua is the King of kings. It is the Sacred Year because he is Lord of lords.
> > .. the phrase 'former rain' is used in the spring, and the 'latter Rain' simply denotes the autumn.
It is the other way around. The Former Rain is in the fall, the Latter Rain in the spring. Both the Greek and Hebrew words used for these in Scripture indicate the seasons in which they fall. For instance, James 5:7 says, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." The word for the early rain is proimon, which means autumnal showering. Opsimon is used for the latter rain and means spring showering. Jer. 5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in HIS SEASON: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest." The Hebrew yowreh, which means autumnal sprinkling is used for the former rain. Malqowsh is the word for the latter rain. It means gathered spring rain. Both rains are to come in "his season." Yeshua has two due seasons, i.e., two comings.
> > Joel is saying that in the Millennium, both of these rains will occur in the first month not the first day of the months
In Scripture, when a month is mentioned without a day number, we are to assume that it is the first day of the month because the same word is used for month and new moon, which is the first of the month.
I first found Tishri 1 as the former rain and Nisan 1 as the latter rain in Unger's Bible Dictionary. As for why the rain does not always start on time, Jer. 3:1-3 says, " thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD. Lift up thine eyes unto the high places, and see where thou hast not been lien with. In the ways hast thou sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and thou hast polluted the land with thy whoredoms and with thy wickedness. Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed."
De. 11:12-14 says, " A land which the LORD thy God careth for: the eyes of the LORD thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year. And it shall come to pass, IF ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul (as a nation, they are not doing this today), That I will give you the rain of your land in HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain and the latter rain."
If the rains have not yet begun by Tabernacles, they should get right with God and pray for rain. Right now, Israel is experiencing a lack of enough water. The Sea of Galilee is dangerously low again. Why? they gave away the right to the temple mount when God gave it back to them. They are trading land for a false peace. What they should do is turn to the Lord, accept Yeshua as their Messiah, and trust the Lord to restore the land to them and keep it for them. They are trusting in their own strength instead of the Lord's. They have strayed from the Lord, not the other way around, but they have to learn the hard way.
The other nations are at fault too. Joel 3:2 says, "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and PARTED MY LAND." They should not PART GOD'S LAND. The consequences will be terrible. Then, on the day of utter disaster, the remnant of Israel will be saved in a day (Isa. 66:8).
Zech. 13:8,9 says, " And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God." Agape
Also if all the christians are taken in the two raptures then who will be taught in the millinium as described in Ezekiel Chapter 44?
Do you believe Cain was the son of satan?
Those called British Israelites claim to be Jews when in truth, they are not.
No, Cain was a man. Only 2 people in Scripture are called sons of perdition, Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet (Jn. 17:12; II Thess. 2:3). Satan enters into them both.
After the second Rapture, on the day of God's Wrath, the first day of the Millennial Day of the Lord, all the remnant of Israel will be saved. Isa. 66:8 says, "shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children." There are also 7 more months (Eze. 39:12) before the Second Advent for people to accept Christ. At the Judgment of the Nations, Christ will say to the sheep at his right hand, "Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world" (Mt. 25:34). Agape
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